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jdc8
05-19-2018, 02:07 PM
I am refurbishing a show wagon 6 Hitch I made over 30 years ago. Need to know how to arrange the lines. Magazine photos do not show that. All my other reference material is about farming hitches , not a show setup. Would really appreciate advice.

jdc8
05-19-2018, 05:08 PM
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Well after I asked for help I finally found a diagram online. Figures:(
Will try to attach picture here. Maybe help somebody else.
Anybody else out there have a traditional size six up?
I will send photos when I get it cleaned and fixed.

tannutuva
05-20-2018, 05:10 PM
Thanks for posting this, really interesting. I don't know what else I was imagining, but it's fascinating how the reins for one horse cross over to its teammate's harness. Makes sense, but hadn't sat down and thought about the dynamics before — that's what I get for concentrating on halter models.

jdc8
05-21-2018, 11:40 AM
Yes isn't it neat!
I wish I had paid more attention to the drivers and lines all the times I saw the big hitches at the Iowa State Fair. But I was too busy goggling at the magnificent horses jingling past making the ground shake under my feet!!
So the driver winds up with 3 lines in each hand. Still do not see how they do it:)
I am anxious to tackle this project , but I need to clear off the whole hobby table to make room for the hitch - and finagle a few hours of not being interrupted.
Would still like to find a photo taken from driver seat.

FourWindsFarm
05-25-2018, 04:01 PM
If you have FB, follow Blue Ribbon Days Percherons. They regularly post vidoes and photos from the driver's seat behind their six- and eight-ups.

Six from the Driver's Seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqYlm0fAcQ

Heading to the ring with Eight at the Minnesota State Fair: https://www.facebook.com/BlueRibbonDays/videos/1101105699975668/


(https://www.facebook.com/BlueRibbonDays/videos/1101105699975668/)

Silverfang07
05-25-2018, 06:44 PM
Oh wow that's so cool!
I'd be so anxious to drive such a big team...always amazing to watch.

jdc8
05-29-2018, 05:11 PM
173538173539173540I finished running the lines on hitch this afternoon - almost 20' of them! I began to wonder about all those heavy lines flapping around between 6 horses. Sounded like a disaster waiting to happen. Back to the diagram. AHHA. Seemed to be some sort of keepers coming off inside bridles of swing and wheel horses. Also appeared that some lines go between ears , which made no sense. So back to my boxes of reference pictures - with a magnifying glass. And more searching for internet videos. I can not access FB but did find one really cool video of an entire class from a camera below the driver. Whee. Yes the keeper straps come off top of bridle by ear. Could not tell if a poll strap or attached to ring. On work teams the keepers are attached to the hames. But the show hitches have them on bridles. I just watched a USEF video of Devon coaching class. On those hitches the keepers were on the outside of wheel horse bridles and then the lines went thru vertical ring in middle of harness saddle. I always wondered WTH those rings were for.
So for a big draft hitch the poor wheel horses have several pounds of lines dragging on their ears and flapping by their noses. Isn't it amazing what horses put up with for us? The flashy leaders get all the attention but it is the stalwart wheelers who hold the entire shebang together:)
The wagon was a custom order and is signed by Orel Reigsecker. I made the harness for fun and pretty. It is neither realistic nor especially well crafted. Still a lot of work and research. I really admire the artists who do the truly authentic pieces.

Ghost_Wolf_Ranch
05-31-2018, 04:12 PM
I got some shots of the six horse hitch class at the Addison County Fair last year, hope these help:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4428/36484080036_e30f596033_o.png (https://flic.kr/p/XzYrUG)Misty Knoll Farms Percherons (https://flic.kr/p/XzYrUG) by ghost_wolf_ranch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_wolf_ranch/), on Flickr

You can see the lead pair's reins are threaded through keepers on the swing pair's bridles.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4417/36484080796_675d44a840_o.png (https://flic.kr/p/XzYs8N)Misty Knoll Farms Percherons (https://flic.kr/p/XzYs8N) by ghost_wolf_ranch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_wolf_ranch/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4407/35721396743_c5854d48fd_o.png (https://flic.kr/p/WqzuJK)_DSC0093 (https://flic.kr/p/WqzuJK) by ghost_wolf_ranch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_wolf_ranch/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4358/36484084876_3352ae8252_o.png (https://flic.kr/p/XzYtm9)Isham Brook Farms lead and swing teams. (https://flic.kr/p/XzYtm9) by ghost_wolf_ranch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_wolf_ranch/), on Flickr

Many more photos here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_wolf_ranch/albums/72157685009125753